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48 hrs without new dumb trolls.

Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first.--Ronald Wilson Reagan

it just takes longer.

And listen to it. On 8 Track.

Priced one of these bad boys that has been restored....YIKES

For me, 1972 Old Cutlass HO would be the dream car.

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NObama...no way!.....McCain '08 !

They're very rare and valuable in that condition especially. I've only ridden in/drooled over one that belongs to a friend of mine from back home in Jersey who lovingly and meticulously spent every spare nickel he had on his over a period of about 5 years. It was always: "So Jay, what are you doing this weekend...wait...we know...you're working on your Javelin. Or you're going to pick up parts for your Javelin. Or you're going to meet some guy who knows about something on your Javelin." But he was a cool, quirky guy and the car was a lot of fun.

One interesting thing about the AMC/AMX cars is that there is no such thing as a true "numbers matching" engine/chassis correspondence, which makes buying an "authentically restored" one an extra adventure. I'm sure there are a lot of beautiful restored AMXes out there with engines that weren't the displacement that came in the car, but hey...they're a piece of Americana. Who cares when the cars were that ba***s?

They remind me of early '70s Kawasakis especially, like the Z1.

And the promotional materials were just...in a different world from the way anything is written today. From 1971:

If you want to intimidate someone, this is the car to do it in.

The 1971 AMX. Every bit as mean as it looks. A spoiler lip on the roof. A spoiler on the rear deck. And an optional one under the front bumper. All functional.

The standard engine is a very tough 360 cubic inch V-8. Mated to a fully synchronized 3-speed floor shift.

And for real intimidating, it has a special "Go" package that includes a T-stripe, curling around the front end and blasting up the middle of the hood. It includes things like a 401 or 360 4-barrel V-8 with cowl induction, dual exhaust, front disc brakes, Twin-Grip differential, E60x15 fiberglass-belted wide-tread tires, 15"x7" mag-style wheels, and more.

The 1971 AMX . . . the toughest of all the Javelins. If you're going to take on the best that GM, Ford and Chrysler can dish out, you've got to be tough.

Man! It should have came with a monogrammed set of brass knuckles and a .357 in the glovebox! The brochure alone would cause a protest march and a class-action lawsuit today.

One of these days I'd like to buy one and restore it. They're truly "out of the mainstream" American muscle cars and very unique because of that.

They had a fastback coupe version of it that they even entered in a few NASCAR races.

Interesting company, a few interesting cars. An AMX with the 401 might be fun, but I think I'm getting too old for 400 ci engines.

In Vino Veritas

It was a family car for them, not a hotrod. If you look at the Matadors on Wikipedia, they had one of the sedans like this one, which was a fairly vanilla family car for the time. The coupes were for the sportier set.

AMC had an distinctly eccentric brand image that was built on a kind of clipped and scrappy toughness, almost an obdurateness about them, but not quite, and then a kind of underdog brutality in their musclecars that appeals to me. Look at the wheels on the matador in that picture, to see what I'm getting at. Even the family sedans had to have something a little "tough" and scrappy about them. And they were distinctive -- I can still pick them out of a sea of cars today. Maybe that's because AMC thought of itself as a kind of underdog versus the Big Three, or a maverick fighting the "dinosaurs." AMC started out as Nash (think of the Nash Rambler) and this is one of the songs my father actually used to sing to me while we were playing around as kids:

"I'll...show...him...that...a...Cadillac...is...not...a...car...to...scorn."

Anyway this thread could go on forever if we kept it up. In fact, since I've been doing a lot of this recently I'm finally going to start a side blog on Blogger just to handle my miscellaneous ramblings if anyone wants to join. I'll do that tomorrow. These kinds of memories are too much fun.

I can definitely, definitely picture him in one of the (very limited production) Rebel Machines.

Awesome car. Tell me you can't picture him rolling up to the White House in one of these babies.

trip down AMC memory lane:

http://www.javelinamx.com/JavHome/articles/article2.htm

I found that exact same site the other day, surfing around looking for some inspiration for a mail piece I was designing, which got me thinking about American Motors in general and their "maverick" image and that's when it clicked that when McCain tours the country, along with the bus he should have a trailer with a Rebel Machine in it for photo-ops. and general revelry. I think it would suit him, and as a former Romney fan I've been doing my best to really "grok" McCain recently. I find that picturing someone in a classic car of one kind or another is a way to help me get a bead on their personality.

That car fits him, at least to me.

Aside from the content? It's that it's "Web 1.0"

This social networking BS with nothing but blogs and information scattered willy-nilly across huge relational databases is nuts, I'm coming to believe. Or at the very least, it is strangling the things that were great about "Web 1.0" just because of everyone's new social networking fetish.

Eventually we'd like to import all the old stuff into RS 3, but it will stay available whether we do so or not.

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Ok, so if I posted something on 2.0, I'd have to go back to 2.0 to read it?

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Old links to posts should still work fine.

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Ok, thanks!

I wasn't sure if I should be copy and pasting into 3.0 or not. (not that many of my threads were stellar, but still)

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Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: 7.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 1.85

the beta site will be scrubbed once we relaunch here from what I've been told.

But I wouldn't don't copy and paste anyway. Just get ready to start posting new stuff to warm the place up, heh.

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Everything available now will still be available.

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Yup, That was what I was curious about.

Thanks for answer my question.

I do like it here.

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Dependence is Slavery.

Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: 7.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 1.85