"Don't taze me, Breaux!"
By Vladimir Posted in Miscellanea | New Orleans | Public Housing | Rabble Rousers — Comments (28) / Email this page » / Leave a comment »
The New Orleans City Council, by a 7-0 vote, approved plans to raze four of the city's squalid, decrepit and historically crime infested public housing projects. Mayor Nagin has applauded the vote. Even the Washington Post approves:
Corruption and mismanagement led to a federal takeover of the city's housing authority in 2002. The Department of Housing and Urban Development moved quickly to break up these concentrations of poverty and dysfunction. Redevelopment of five of nine complexes into mixed-income communities is well underway. The remaining four complexes -- B.W. Cooper, St. Bernard, C.J. Peete and Lafitte -- hang in the balance. The City Council must vote for demolition.
Outside agitators apparently see this as a Christmas gift opportunity for outrageous media stunts. Even though open units in the existing housing await occupants, protesters yesterday attacked City Hall in anticipation of the vote.
Protesters at City Hall are Tasered and Pepper Sprayed
Dude, that's not pepper spray, it's Wassail! Merry Christmas! Happy Winter Solstice Holiday!
[Update] Lest anyone think there is a shortage of public housing, check out this T-P graphic.
The Great Society created a permanent class of people who will never want to work, and when you threaten their benefits, they get violent.
...a long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right...
---Thomas Paine---
Do you short-hand guys get together at weekly meetings to try to come up with the most obscure way to say something? Do you know how awkward it is to google "5" in order to find out what the heck you meant?
I'm a software programmer for the love of pete! I know that 101 is 5 in binary but to make the leap from "Laugh Out Loud" to "lol" to 101 to 5 is asking a bit much from my unhip mind. I must have missed that definition when I was studying binary triangle trees, hash tables and NIAD pulse converters... or am I bluffing?
You know back in my day (like the mid 90s) we used acronyms and shorthand for things that actually took a long time to type like SWOTL. I'll send a bag of marshmallows to whoever knows what that stood for without googling it.
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5 is RS speak for excellent post/comment, or I rate it as high as possible (1 has the opposite meaning). 5 and the rarely used 1 are vestiges of an older version of RS, which allowed RedStaters to rate comments on a one to five scale. 5 x 5, 5^5, 5*5, 555, etc. are all variations of 5
P.S. There is an FAQ diary floating around somewhere on this site that explains a lot of the more commonly used aspects of RedState speak. I cannot remember who its author was, but he has a link to his FAQ diary in his signature line.
...a long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right...
---Thomas Paine---
Dim bulb protesters.
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A District Judge appointed by Clinton is about to be brought up for impeachment. He replaced a Carter appointee who resigned before he could get impeached.
Ref: http://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2007/12/court_refers_porteous_for_imp...
Will Leahy demand that Bush follow settled precedent and nominate a corrupt liberal for that seat?
The sad thing is that money has already been appropriated for public housing in NOLA that hasn't been able to be freed up for use yet, and they're still up in arms over trying to keep these wiped-out dwellings (which something tells me HUD built in the first place, contrary to the detractors). With these blighted cesspools out of the way, they actually have a chance at building new residences... but the victim class will have none of it, as it might cause a slight disturbance.
How sick.
"No matter how much lipstick you put on the taxation pig, it's still a pig... and it's currently snout-down in your wallet." - Michael Fisk
Reccomended just for the punny title!
My other sister sent me this one...
Landrieu applauds City Council demolition decision
WASHINGTON – Sen. Mary Landrieu, D-New Orleans, fully supported the New Orleans City Council decision to permit the demolition of four public housing units while reaffirming support for the mixed-income affordable community plan outlined in the Gulf Coast Housing Recovery Act. Landrieu is the principal cosponsor of the legislation.
“The City Council’s decision smartly recognizes that demolition and renewal must be considered hand-in-hand in order to move forward," Landrieu said. "It reaffirmed a wise commitment to the principles of affordable housing, community partnership, HANO reform and mixed-income development laid out in the Gulf Coast Housing Recovery Act.
"In so doing, the Council rose above the divisive and misleading destroy-and-forget arguments of Sen. Vitter, the Times-Picayune and other opponents who refuse to look beyond the wrecking ball to see the foundation of a more smartly designed community of tomorrow.“I am proud of the Council members for considering this issue with their heads and their hearts and for ultimately reaching the right conclusion for New Orleans and her people. I am also proud of the Catholic and Episcopal churches, local community leaders and all others for understanding that this effort was never about demolition, but about what happens next; and for having the courage to stand up for one greater New Orleans.”
This is a good diary you've got here. I would have written something about this yesterday, but I was driving home from Baton Rouge to Missouri for the holidays. So I'm glad you covered this.
I would like to add a couple of points. First, it has been widely publicized that about 4,500 units are being torn down in the four New Orleans housing projects about to undergo demolition. Many publications, including the New York Times have reported that about 3,000 of those units were occupied before Katrina. [1] Both those figures are accurate. HOWEVER, the total number of units actually occupied today is far lower than most people realize. We don't know exactly how many people are still living there or how many units are occupied at this time, but we do know that after Katrina many of these residents left and never came back. In fact, HUD says that at this point the majority of units about to be demolished are vacant. [2] Therefore, the 3,300 new housing units that HUD will build as part of this plan is more than enough to cover the housing needs of the city's former project occupants.
Second, I was listening to a local radio program on AM 870 for about 2-3 hours on my way up from Louisiana yesterday, and the vast majority of callers, perhaps nine out of every ten who called in, supported the city council's plan to demolish these structures. The reasons are fairly obvious. Many of these structures were woefully inadequate even before Katrina. They are full of asbestos, lead based paint, lead pipes, and all manner of other harmful substances. After Katrina they are also full of mold, rot, and other forms of water damage. It is because of conditions like these that the city council voted unanimously, in a resounding 7-0 decision, to demolish these structures. We should also note that the city council is hardly composed of a bunch of rapacious white capitalists. It includes three black members and four white members, and given the political orientation of the city it is dominated by Democrats (I believe all of them are Democrats, but I'm still working on finding that information). Moreover, all of them are long-time residents of New Orleans, unlike many of the protesters outside the city hall. Make no mistake, these people voted for this demolition plan because they believed that it was the best move for their people.
[1] http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/14/us/nationalspecial/14orleans.html
[2] http://www.theolympian.com/national/story/305058-p2.html
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- Me
I'm not sure the average reader, you and bk excepted, appreciates the hell-holes that these anarchist outside rabble rousers are trying to save. They are trying to paint the illusion of a housing crisis when there is none. There may no longer be $50/month places to live, but there are places to live.
Sane people avoid N.O.'s housing projects like the plague. They fester with guns, drugs, gangs and all manner of criminal activity. And they're not the 1960's Pruitt-Igo generation of reinforced concrete high-rises that we've seen in Chicago, St. Louis and elsewhere; by and large, these are three-story buildings, more akin to military barracks, that I've always figured were built in the '40's.
Anyone fighting to save the projects is fighting for a status quo that deserved to die 40 years ago.
There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life. - Frank Zappa
tell them NO WAY they are going to get new housing, they have to stay right where they are. Then the cry will be for new housing.
"Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty"
Kyle
Anyone fighting to save the projects is fighting for a status quo that deserved to die 40 years ago.
Just think about the effect this will have on gang territories. There will have to be a lot of new battles to determine where the new lines are... and of course, a whole lot of retagging to be done. That's a lot of work that wouldn't be necessary if they left them in place.
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Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. - Milton Friedman
Many of these projects have been boarded up for 2-1/2 years. The killing started in earnest about June of '06 as the displaced thugs returned to the city; many moved into what were relatively quiet neighborhoods before. As you note, new territories had to be worked out.
Thus, the astronomical murder rates we have seen...
That, and a DA's office/Police Dept that for all intents and purposes has brought zero murderers to trial. The vast majority of cases that are considered "cleared" have that status because of the retaliation murder of the #1 suspect.
There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life. - Frank Zappa
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... but I'm not ready to quit my day job.
There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life. - Frank Zappa
race, having seen the debate with landrieux?
Nagin acted out during and immediatly after Katrina, but I actually believe him when he said he couldn't get qualified bus drivers, and
actually, the evacuation was success, but
I don't want to re-fight that!
The governor was the idiot in Katrina...
Mike Gamecock DeVine @ The Charlotte Observer
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I'm sure it will be a creative rewrite of history. Of course, it's all GWB's fault.
There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life. - Frank Zappa
1) Ban guns so law abiding citizens can't defend themselves
2) Install cameras at government expense, or force private parties to install them at their expense
3) Tear down a block and rebuild it partly with government funds, making a whole lot of money for developers friendly with the city council in the process. And maybe get an awesome free kitchen renovation out of the deal.
#3 isn't going to be any more successful than #1 and #2 have been. The buildings don't cause crime any more than guns do.
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Vlad
This whole deal was actually pretty amazing given the elephant in the room, race.
The sad reality of New Orleans is that the vast majority of the people who were displaced by Katrina from these housing projects were African American and from the permanent poverty class in New Orleans.
Generations of White Democrat politicians in the state, from Huey Long to Moon Landrieu perpetuated, aided and sustained the creation of this underclass. In the 70's with abandonment of white middle class voters from the Democratic party in the state and in New Orleans, a new generation of African American poverty pimps like "Dollar Bill" Jefferson came into power and based their political power not on seeking jobs to lift people out of poverty, but instead based on the power of more Federal dollars to be used as a narcotic to dull the senses of the African American poverty class.
In some ways, the actions of the New Orleans city council to use the aftermath of Katrina in order to break apart the locus points of the poverty class in New Orleans is truly amazing. I wonder where the merchants of racism like Jessie, Al and the other fellow bigots are?
Back in the day, my dad used to go get some of that "Free government cheese" handed out by Jimmy Carter's administration, not because he needed it, but because he could, by the way it was really nasty stuff.
One can only hope that the new governor, Bobby Jindal and Senator Vitter will give ever bit of aid to the New Orleans city council as they try to undo generations of hooking the poverty class on the narcotic called Federal welfare.
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...over the corrupt and mismanaged Housing Authority of New Orleans (HANO) that it took over in 2002.
The sad fact is that HANO became a feifdom for a whole class of poverty pimps cast in the mold of Bill Jefferson. If these a-holes actually acted on their own rhetoric to lift up their own people, it would be one thing; instead, the power and authority is an end in itself to be exploited. Then, it becomes important to keep the status quo, if that's the source of your power.
There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life. - Frank Zappa
http://www.breitbart.tv/html/17714.html
It's hard not to think in stereotypes when you see one woman yelling "Shut up white boy!" right after screaming "I will not be treated like a slave!" Then there's another group just looking to create an altercation with the cops so they can scream racism and police brutality.
As someone who grew up in New Orleans and attended more than my fair share of parades in every part of town, I have to say that NOPD cops have the most patience of any cops I've ever seen, but once you cross the line you're going to pay the price.
give us a break with the "Don't taze me, bro" stuff.
Mike Gamecock DeVine @ The Charlotte Observer
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There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life. - Frank Zappa

"They [critics of the plan] also say the buildings are, contrary to popular opinion, mostly handsome brick structures that will outlast anything HUD builds in their place."
One of my sisters there has often remarked since Katrina how there are help wanted signs everywhere, and yet all these able-bodied people who apparently refuse to work while living off the taxpayers have no problem showing up in droves whenever there is any protest - and even better if the idea is to turn it violent.