Obama Retreats on FISA

This Line Can't Be Crossed! [Pause] No, *This* Line!

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I asked yesterday how Barack Obama, who opposed the FISA bill last time it came around and specifically opposed the telecom immunity provisions, would handle the compromise by which nearly the same bill has now passed the House and will return to the Senate with sufficient votes to pass. You will recall the emphatic nature of Obama's statement in opposition:

I strongly oppose retroactive immunity in the FISA bill.... No one should get a free pass to violate the basic civil liberties of the American people - not the President of the United States, and not the telecommunications companies that fell in line with his warrantless surveillance program. We have to make clear the lines that cannot be crossed.

Well, anyone who was observing this campaign to find out whether Obama has credibility when he draws that kind of line now has their answer: he folds like a cheap suit:

Given the grave threats that we face, our national security agencies must have the capability to gather intelligence and track down terrorists before they strike, while respecting the rule of law and the privacy and civil liberties of the American people. ... After months of negotiation, the House today passed a compromise that, while far from perfect, is a marked improvement over last year's Protect America Act.

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It is not all that I would want. But given the legitimate threats we face, providing effective intelligence collection tools with appropriate safeguards is too important to delay. So I support the compromise, but do so with a firm pledge that as President, I will carefully monitor the program, review the report by the Inspectors General, and work with the Congress to take any additional steps I deem necessary to protect the lives - and the liberty - of the American people.

The left-wingers who supported Obama and thought he would actually take a stand rather than issue some empty words have now joined that crowd under the Obama bus. Welcome to the general election, folks. Hope you didn't actually believe that "Hope" and "Change" meant a new and different kind of candidate. Obama may be just as left-wing as you are - by all indications, he is - and just as immune to understanding the way the world works, but he does know how to read polls, and he doesn't have much experience standing his ground under fire. So, while his statement pretty much admits that his "lines that cannot be crossed" have in fact been crossed, he's just not going to do anything about it:

There is ... little doubt that the Bush Administration, with the cooperation of major telecommunications companies, has abused that authority and undermined the Constitution by intercepting the communications of innocent Americans without their knowledge or the required court orders.

That is why last year I opposed the so-called Protect America Act, which expanded the surveillance powers of the government without sufficient independent oversight to protect the privacy and civil liberties of innocent Americans. I have also opposed the granting of retroactive immunity to those who were allegedly complicit in acts of illegal spying in the past.

Obama leaves open the suggestioin that he might try to alter the bill before it reaches the President's desk:

[The bill] does, however, grant retroactive immunity, and I will work in the Senate to remove this provision so that we can seek full accountability for past offenses.

Of course, if he means he will do that now, that would bust up the compromise and get us back to square one - and there are already enough Senators on board with telecom immunity that no such thing will happen unless Obama uses the influence of his position as head of his party to bend the Democratic caucus to his will (another thing he has no record of ever doing). You know and I know that if he starts off from a position of saying he "support[s] the compromise," that's not gonna happen. It's a hollow threat.

If Obama means that when he gets elected he'll restore the ability to sue the telecom companies, well, he is probably relying on Hope that his supporters don't know that it would be an unconstitutional violation of separation of powers to reopen what will by then be final judgments.

So at the end of the day, when Obama says that a line can't be crossed, and it then gets crossed, how can we summarize his response? I think Jim Carrey's character in Liar, Liar summarized it well:

Fletcher: You scratched my car!

Motorpool Guy: Where?

Fletcher: [indicating with his hands] Right there!

Motorpool Guy: OH... That was already there.

Fletcher: You - -LIAR! You know what I am going to do about this?

Motorpool Guy: what?

Fletcher: Nothing! Because if I take it to small claims court, it will just drain 8 hours out of my life and you probably won't show up and even if I got the judgment you'd just stiff me anyway; so what I am going to do is piss and moan like an impotent jerk, and then bend over and take it up the tailpipe!

Motorpool Guy: [tossing the keys to Fletcher] You've been here before haven't ya?

Today, Obama's spinelessness is in service of our national security, so I applaud it. Let's just hope we never see the day when his spine is what we depend on to protect our security.

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...position that he has remained consistant on in the last 12-18 months? Something besides the fact that he was a comunity organizer for a while and he thinks washington needs change?

I can't think of anything.

He's also been consistent about jacking up taxes, although he's been dodgy on the details....Obama's not so much a flip-flopper or a hedger in the Kerry mold (i.e., afraid to take unambiguous positions) as he is just a guy with a glass jaw who has no experience standing his ground against real opposition.

"No compromise with the main purpose, no peace till victory, no pact with unrepentant wrong." - Winston Churchill

"Do not fear, only believe." (Mark 5:36)

shhhhhhhhh by akopp54

His base, if the Kos kids are any indication, are PO'd to the point of perhaps not being so free with their wallets. If you keep talking about it though he'll whip back around like he did on AIPAC when the Palestine-backers started revolting.

Please oh please let this go through. I swear, this issue for his base is like McCain's immigration waffling for us; it could do real damage to fundraising.

Hmmmmm..... by Han Pritcher

"It does, however, grant retroactive immunity, and I will work in the Senate to remove this provision so that we can seek full accountability for past offenses."

I would have preferred stronger language, but he did say it in the statement.

Karl Rove. It looks like him.

Oh, yes it is by Dan McLaughlin

This is not the legislation you want to take a stand against.

This is not the legislation I want to take a stand against.

You will move on to another issue.

I will move on to another issue.

"No compromise with the main purpose, no peace till victory, no pact with unrepentant wrong." - Winston Churchill

that would be a first...

It would also require taking time away from campaigning and raising money. That, coupled with his promised trip to Iraq and Afghanistan, I wonder when he's going to fit it all in.

"Do not fear, only believe." (Mark 5:36)

Perhaps by Whitehorse

He believes that saying he's going to work in the senate on this is the same as working?

They are sooo peaved!

According to the left, all the Democrats not just caved "but have violated their oath to the people they serve".

THANK YOU FISA!!!! Reading the lefty blogs will bring me hours of fun tonight.

MelZ


[...Easy to find, easier to replace, kids. - Moe Lane]

Perhaps Ray Naggin can give him a deal on these


"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777

Heh nt by Dan McLaughlin

"No compromise with the main purpose, no peace till victory, no pact with unrepentant wrong." - Winston Churchill

FISA by KYJurisDoctor

Barack Obama's statement supporting the FISA amendment suggests he is slowly moving to the center, while his Democratic colleagues in the U. S. House and Senate (particularly in the House) demonstrate that they are INCAPABLE of delivering on their promises which got them control of Congress! OsiSpeaks[dot]com

With malice towards none, with charity for all, with firmness in the right as God gives us to see right.

This is one heck of a bill to take a stand on liberties.Without it passing we may not have any to worry about. Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran.

Wonder if we could have possibly intercepted the Nuc plans with a simple email or phone tap?

 
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