The New 'Soldiers of Surrender'
It's not just for the French any more! (or, "Why the case of the fifteen British sailors hacks me off so badly.")
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On March 23, while conducting a routine boarding operation and inspection of a merchant vessel in the waters of the coast of Iraq, fifteen British sailors and Royal Marines were approached by two speedboats full of Iranian Revolutionary Guardsmen. The armed British surrendered to the armed Iranians without a fight, and within two hours had been taken to Tehran in the Islamic Republic, where they were held captive for just under two weeks.
The Brits’ capture raised many questions, which were covered here at RedState in great detail, with especially great work being done by streiff and by several diarists. For example, why wasn’t their ship, the HMS Cornwall, within range of their operation, so as to provide cover for the rubber inflatable boats (RIBs) from which the boarding teams were operating? Why did the British helicopter tasked with loitering over the RIBs during the boarding operation leave its station? And, most of all, why did fourteen armed British fighting men, and one woman, simply give in, and decide, in the words of Marine Captain Chris Air, that “fighting back was simply not an option?”
The idea of simply surrendering to an armed enemy is antithetical to anything which a trained soldier believes and is taught to do. Doing so in this case – for the stated reason that “a gun battle would risk an escalation of tensions with Iran” – made an already bizarre situation even more so. As a combat veteran, I cannot even begin to fathom the thought process of allowing oneself – and the troops under one’s command – to be taken captive in the territorial waters of the nation which they are assigned to defend so that the enemy capturing them won’t be more hostile.
Read on . . .
The United States military has a Code of Conduct which is in place to govern its troops’ actions in situations like this. Article II of this code says, in just so many words, “I will never surrender of my own free will. If in command, I will never surrender the members of my command while they still have the means to resist.” Nowhere in the American military’s Code of Conduct is allowance made for simply deciding that “fighting back” isn’t “an option” – especially because it might “risk and escalation of tensions” with the nation which is doing the capturing. Granted, these sailors were British, not American; however, given that, here’s a tip for Captain Chris Air: if armed soldiers from a nation’s Revolutionary Guard are abducting you at gunpoint, then they’ve already “escalated” the “tensions” on their own.
Unfortunately, this act of going quietly, and allowing an enemy to come and abduct them without a fight, was only the beginning of an utterly appalling performance on the part of these fifteen British troops – as well as on the part of their government.
Within days of their capture, the British sailors were being paraded in front of television cameras – a violation of the Geneva Convention – and (led by their officers) were confessing left and right, on camera, to having violated the Islamic Republic’s sovereignty, despite the fact that the closest the RIBs ever got to Iran’s territorial waters was 1.7 nautical miles. Further footage was shown of several of the sailors “smoking and joking,” as they say – lounging around, eating, and playing chess, the men in their uniforms, and the woman , Faye Turney, in a hijab and outergarments.
Article III of the US Code of Conduct says, “If I am captured I will continue to resist by all means available. I will make every effort to escape and aid others to escape. I will accept neither parole nor special favors from the enemy.” This behavior on the part of the British – the prompt, public confessions to supposed wrongdoing, and the taking part in propaganda films put out over the airwaves throughout the region and the world, clearly demonstrated that these sailors and marines had no interest in resisting their captors, or in maintaining their honor throughout the ordeal.
During their period of detention, according to one lieutenant, the British “were stripped of their uniforms, blindfolded and ordered to stand against a wall with [their] hands bound as people were cocking weapons in the background – and experience which was “an extremely nerve-racking occasion.”
“The detention was…not a pleasant experience,” said the lieutenant. “We as a group held out for as long as we thought appropriate. We then complied…with our captors.”
As long as they felt appropriate? Is that what the British military’s standard is now – to hold, when captured, out as long as the detainee deems appropriate, and then to give in? Beyond the absurdity of the sentiment itself, the reality is that these troops were in custody for two weeks – and at least half of that time, they had been complying with every wish of their captors. It would be very interesting indeed to see these British sailors explain that rationale to men like Col. George “Bud” Day, who spent six years in a North Vietnamese prison (and who was the only Vietnam POW to successfully escape from North Vietnam, though he was recaptured), or Senator John McCain, who to this day cannot even comb his own hair because of the tremendous physical toll of real torture he endured during five and a half years of captivity.
Article IV of the US Code says, “Should I become a prisoner of war, I will keep faith with my fellow prisoners. I will give no information nor take part in any action which might be harmful to my comrades. If I am senior, I will take command. If not, I will obey the lawful orders of those appointed over me and will back them up in every way.” The British officers, tasked with being the active military’s leaders, only led the charge to give in to their captors. Seeing the captain and the lieutenant on film, confessing to everything short of a full-scale invasion of Iran, absolutely disgusted me personally, as well as every other military veteran who has fought for honor and who has sworn an oath to keep faith with his or her own country.
I have no doubt that the experience was, as the Lieutenant said it, “nerve-wracking” – especially given the combination of being in unknown territory, being held by an enemy which is an unknown quantity (though Iran is well known to the British and American militaries as being actively engaged in killing allied soldiers within Iraq), and being unsure of whether your government knows where you are, or will lift a finger to secure your release. The treatment they actually received, though, was no worse than that which American soldiers undergo during standard SERE (Survival, Evasion, Resistance, and Escape) training. If the British actually consider Iraq – and the waters off its coast – to be a combat zone, then its sailors should be – and should have been – prepared for their hazardous assignment accordingly. Whether these fifteen received such training or not, I do not know, but if they did, their actions make it perfectly clear that they did not learn anything from it.
Article V of the Code of Conduct states, “When questioned, should I become a prisoner of war, I am required to give name, rank, service number, and date of birth. I will evade answering further questions to the utmost of my ability. I will make no oral or written statements disloyal to my country and its allies or harmful to their cause.” The British officers led the way to make such statements, but female captive Faye Turney was possibly more high-profile than her military leaders, as she penned and signed statements and letters not only confessing to the false charge of invading Iran’s territorial waters, but also calling on her own country to “end it’s illegal occupation of Iraq.” Such an act was absolutely disgusting – and that is the nicest description which I can think to give it.
While the fifteen sailors and marines were being held captive, the British government was busily crafting strongly worded statements about the situation, with the dire threat that, if Tehran didn’t release the captives soon, or harmed them in any way, more strongly-worded statements would follow. Given that situation, it becomes more difficult to condemn the actions of the sailors out-of-hand, despite their dismal performance under pressure – for, had I been in their situation, I know full well that I would have questioned whether my government was more interested in coming after me, or in preventing an “escalation of tensions” with the nation which had kidnapped me, and was illegally holding me prisoner. This is not a good situation to be in, regardless of the duration of imprisonment.
Article VII of the Code concludes, “I will trust in my God and in the United States of America.” If these Britons trusted in their nation – or in their God – then they did an absolutely pathetic job of showing it. In their race to capitulate to an enemy, they dishonored themselves, the entirety of the British military, and the United Kingdom itself. What they were focused on during their captivity was not upholding their oath to their country, or maintaining their honor. What they were focused on (as has been admitted by the sailors themselves) was going home, and they were willing to play along with whatever Iran wanted in order to achieve that. That mindset, combined with the drive upon their release (after shaking the hand and kissing the cheek – again on international television – of their captor-in-chief, Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad) to sell their story to the highest bidder (a privilege usually only awarded to men who receive such high honors as the Victoria Cross; how far greatness has fallen!) exemplifies the current, “me-first” generation which will be responsible for carrying on the West’s tradition of greatness into the future.
I sincerely fear for our future if this group is an example of the best and brightest we have to offer. Given that all fifteen were not present in the propaganda videos, and some had to be cut out of the media’s pictures of the sailors’ release, it is entirely possible that there were a few out of the whole who did not break, who did not give in, and who did not so easily shed their personal honor. Unfortunately, these good men – whichever they may be – have been eclipsed by their comrades, from the officers down, who did not think their country worth the effort. It is a shame, but it is a reality.
We are all glad that the British sailors have safely returned home. The next step should be an inquiry – and the immediate removal from duty of these officers, of Ms. Turney, of the remaining British sailors who aided and abetted their captors, and the leadership of the HMS Cornwall, who, due to their laxness and negligence, were complicit in their own sailors’ capture in the first place.
And that should only be the beginning. Figurative heads must roll, and those who remain must open their eyes and seriously consider their future actions, lest the sun finally set on the fabled British Empire, once and for all.
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This isn't a fair post.
The UK is not at war with Iran, and an officer of that group would be direlect if he ordered his men to engage when they were surrounded by the Iranians. The beter part of valor was to surrender instead of dying in vain.
At the same time, I do think they should NOT have made the confessions on tape. And my reasoning for this is the same as my first point ... an officer should have realized that because the UK was not at war with the Iranians, the Iranians were only bluffing. Had they actually killed the Brits, it would have started a war.
There was a failure of leadership here, but it is a lot easier to criticize from the outside and behind the comfort of your computer.
I disagree. If the group had a reasonable chance to hold out until help arrived they should have resisted. A military does not win by surrendering. What Iran did was an act of war. A forceful response was more then justified.
Particularly read about the War of 1812. THEN get back to us... Ms. Corleone.
Some excerpts from Turney's account:
“They asked which were my ship’s ports of call, where were other coalition ships in the Gulf, how do Royal Navy ships protect themselves, how do we communicate, what was the US doing?
“That could have put my colleagues at risk, and there was no way in hell I was ever going to do that, no matter what they did.
“I told them, ‘How do I know? I’m just the bloody boat driver’. I tried to play the dumb blonde.”
Regarding the false confessions...
“I decided to take that chance, and write in such a way that my unit and my family would know it wasn’t the real me.”
In a coded sign she prayed would be seen, Faye referred to her ship by its pennant number, F99 — something sailors never do.
She said: “There was nothing damaging to security in anything I wrote, I made sure of that. And I never meant a word of it.”
Regarding the appearence of willing compliance...
On Day Ten, the prisoners were allowed to be together for a precious hour a night.
But Faye insisted: “We were only smiling in the TV pictures because we were relieved to see each other. We couldn’t help it.
“The Iranians knew this. That’s why they filmed us at that time.
“Then we were taken back to our cells — and were alone again.”
Don't you think you take the rheteric a bit far with all of the aided and abetted stuff, in light of this? Or do you assert that she's just lying to cover up her own "cowardice"?
It seems plausible that the British soldiers, having been taken into custody, had no way of knowing for certain if they actually had entered Iranian waters, not being privvy to radar tracking tools or maps to review the situation themselves.
But let us assume they absolutely knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that they were not in Iranian waters. They made a false confession. The civilized world already knew it was coerced and false at the time they made it. They've recanted it after being released. It's hard for me to see why this is still so risable. It doesn't seem particularly productive to denigrate the troops of our top ally this much when there's been no evidence presented that they actually provided any material aid, divulged any secrets, and so forth. Whatever failures led to them being taken hostage, I'm unconvinced that these soldiers deserve the kind of bashing they're receiving here. What measurable difference would it have made in terms of substantive world politics or military strategy if they hadn't smiled and waved? What measurable gains did Iran obtain on the world stage that it can actually use as leverage against Britain or the United States solely on account of having obviously false confessions that were subsequently recanted?
I say they're meaningless and cannot be used as leverage. Perhaps Ahmadinejad himself gains popularity within Iran, but outside of Iran, now that the story has gotten out we have a first hand account of his tactics and deceitful treatment of the Brits. And what nations will now join Iran and oppose the United States on account of these false confessions?
go we all; I've never been there, so I've never much commented on the Brit's decision not to resist. Suicide for your Country is not in either our ethic or theirs, so if the Captain made the decision that the only thing he could do was get his subordinates killed, I'm not going to fault him. I'd like to think that I or my son in Afghanistan would do better, but we never know things like that until we face them.
That said, the whole thing was as some Brit said, "a cock up." A three hundred dollar GPS that you can buy at WalMart will tell you exactly where you are; if the Brits didn't have one, they should have. The Lynx should never have been launched w/o suffucient fuel for necessary loiter and should never have been allowed to leave its station without relief. It is an article of faith, iron clad dogma, that nobody on any vessel EVER leaves a station without relief. The Cornwall should have been much closer and more vigilant in the presence of Iranian vessels, and if they didn't know they were there, they should have. The Iranians should never have been allowed to approach the boarded vessel unmolested; the Cornwall is more powerfull than lots of countries; why did it just sit there? A dash towards them with guns trained might very well have rearranged the Iranian's priorities. The shallow water is no excuse; if the ship needs 25, you're safe in 24 and screws can be replaced if you have to dig up a little bottom. The bridge of the Cornwall had a major case of rectocranialitis that day and the Captain of the Cornwall should be hung from the yardarm, figuratively of course.
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Excellent post. The sailors and marines did not cover themselves in glory, but I reserve my most negative opinions for the captain of the Cornwall. Well said.
of the British Navy.
But not because of the behavior of the sailors involved; at least I'm not nearly ready to accuse them of dereliction.
The low point was reached when the British Admiralty in London (or their civilian bosses) ordered their Navy to stand down and allow sailors to be captured. Lame-brained is too tame an epithet to lay on those hesitant Hermans who chose to put fifteen members of their Navy in the most dangerous of situations: They were completely under the control of their enemy, an enemy that doesn't subscribe to the precious and exalted Geneva Convention, and that has a history of holding hostages until they are either forced to release them out of fear (Reagan, 1981), or because they have served their propoganda purposes.
The incident was an opportunity for a Western nation to stand up and be counted, to plant a seed of doubt in the minds of the Islamofascists regarding their assessment of our strength of will and their strategy of destroying that will in a war of attrition. Instead, that assessment and strategy were confirmed.
The Admiralty seemed to have no confidence in its own sailors, but chose to depend on the mercy of scoundrels rather than upon its own resources.
I doubt that there has ever been another Royal Navy ship taken over without a fight, let alone by a smaller, less-well-armed force.
The British Government should be ashamed.
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that only a person with no knowledge of the British navy's history would say. The British navy has a legendary past, but even so the temporary capture of 15 British sailors and marines hardly compares to ... well, all of this:
http://members.iinet.com.au/~gduncan/maritime-1.html
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the conduct of the British Navy that was the primary cause of the War of 1812.
But I must not have stated my point well. Losing ships and men in battle, or by sneak attack, or by sabotage may be disastrous, or a type of low point, but giving up a ship of the Fleet without a fight, even a rubber boat, to a gang of thugs carrying handguns, seems to me to be a disaster and a low point of a different magnitude.
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Leverkuhn, I read further down to your inclusion of a description of the situation by the AP, I think. That description changes my perception and opinion, but it is significantly different from the earlier accounts of the non-battle. At one point I heard a US military person say words to the effect that "if it had been American sailors, they probably would have all died." As you have let us know, he was probably right, because our sailors and Marines might well have resisted. We must hope that we'd never let our men get in such a situation without a very good reason, at least not without one worth dying for.
Consider my remarks revised.
In any case, my criticism was never directed at the sailors that were captured, but at their superiors. That still seems warranted.
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crass and asinine posts I've read here at RedState. The writer (Jeff Emanuel, who really should be better than this) has never been captured, never had a gun placed to his head, never been told that if he did not cooperate he would be executed, and never (so far as I know) been in a combat situation of any kind, much less one that might necessitate the surrendur to a superior force. The 15 British servicemembers went through all that and more.[1]
There is a lot wrong this diary, but the worst of it concerns the misrepresentation of the circumstances under which the Britons were captured. This is an excerpt from an article by the Associated Press which describes the conditions under which the Britons were captured[2]:
Royal Marine Capt. Chris Air said the crew of 15, which was out on a routine operation on March 23, was confronted by members of Iran's Revolutionary Guard.
"They rammed our boats, and trained their heavy machine guns, RPGs, and weapons on us. Another six boats were closing in on us," Air said. "We realized that had we resisted there would have been a major fight, one we could not have won, with consequences that would have major strategic impacts. We made a conscious decision not to engage the Iranians."
The two Iranian speedboats that initially encountered the British sailors, plus the six more approaching makes for eight boats full of Iranian military personnel. Now we don't know exactly how many Iranians were on those boats (I don't think that information is available), but assuming there were 5 to 10 Iranians per boat that would make for a force of between 40 and 80 Iranian military personel in the area. And as the account makes clear, they had heavy machine guns and RPGs, while the 15 British carried small arms. Finally, the British were in an exposed position. They had already boarded an Arab dhow (an antiquated wooden merchant ship common in the Persian Gulf), and the Iranians had rammed their boats, which presumably put them out of action and left the Britons without a means of withdrawal.
The question of why the British ship in the area was unable to intervene is a valid one, and at this point we simply don't know the answer to that. However, as concerns the question of what the 15 captured Britons should have done, the evidence we have seems perfectly clear. Under the circumstances they had no choice but to surrendur.
[1] http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=worldNews&storyid=20...
[2] http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070406/ap_on_re_eu/iran_britain
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Are you kidding here?
The writer (Jeff Emanuel, who really should be better than this) has never been captured, never had a gun placed to his head, never been told that if he did not cooperate he would be executed, and never (so far as I know) been in a combat situation of any kind, much less one that might necessitate the surrendur to a superior force.
Just exert a little SA (that's situational awareness, friend) before making an asinine statement (while attempting to call something asinine).
I believe I had you mixed up with somebody else I've been tangling with over this issue. You obviously have been a soldier and I sincerely apologize for missing that.
However, the rest of what I said, which is the substance of my post, stands as I wrote it. Since you are a former soldier, you of all people should feel obligated to gather all the facts before condemning the battlefield actions of our British allies. The British sailors and marines in question were clearly outnumbered, outgunned, and had no way to retreat. All of the documentary evidence I've seen on this issue proves that. Moreover, the British Military Authorities have said explicitly that their people behaved honorably, even bravely. That should be enough for you, and for all of us, but instead you and many others on this site have insisted on putting these people on trial in the court of public opinion.
So, if there is any evidence you have to support your claim that they behaved dishonorably, any evidence at all, I would like to see it. If you have any evidence that contradicts their story about the tactical situation they were in, I would like to see it. If you have any evidence that shows that they were not badly outnumbered, or that they had the ability to retreat, or that they had more firepower available to them than they say, or that the British High Command is lying to us about their behavior (for whatever reason), I would like to see it. But you have not offered such evidence yet. And until you do, I fail to see how the digital lynch mob out to defame these allies of ours are any different from the left-wing hacks who assassinated the character of Lt. Ilario Pantano before he was finally acquitted.[1] And you know what? From that perspective, being a former soldier yourself, that kind of makes you even worse than the rest.
[1] http://michellemalkin.com/archives/002567.htm
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I usually like your writing, and used your blog re the detention "scandals" to argue with my more liberal associates.
But the hole on this one is getting pretty deep.
The majority of military guys would agree with Jeff Emanuel. Since I'm not a military guy, I tend to be more forgiving. What the sailors/marines decided to do at the time of capture is a judgement I'm not qualified to judge, and certainly seems to be endorsed by their command.
What they did on TV is over-the-top, not from a military perspective necessarily, but from that of decorum, especially from a nation that prides itself on its reserve.
Dignity is not a military thing. The passengers on flight 93 did not have SERE training either, nor did the people in the towers and many at the Pentagon. They did their duty.
I was wrong about Jeff's military background (actually, it was more a matter of me being tired and forgetting which person I was talking to). But regardless of Mr. Emanuel's military credentials, he and every other blogger on this site have a moral responsiblity to check all the facts before they condemn people, especially people who went half-way around the world to fight with America. This obscene digital lynch mob that's been out to get the 15 Britons has proceeded without facts and without any pretension of getting facts. They lightly brush aside the sworn testimony of the British service members in question, and the public statements of the British High Command on this issue. They have no evidence to back up their claims, only the supposition that soldiers who are captured are ipso facto dishonorable. If Mr. Emanuel were subjected to such high-tech tar-and-feathering I would defend him too.
A precedent embalms a principle.
- Disraeli
...with this:
But regardless of Mr. Emanuel's military credentials, he and every other blogger on this site have a moral responsiblity to check all the facts before they condemn people, especially people who went half-way around the world to fight with America.
One hundred percent.
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One other thing: I've talked to some military friends of mine, and they tell me that only a very small percentage of our military ever go through SERE training. Assuming that the British operate the same way, that means that the Britons in question probably never had the advantage of the kind of training this diary refers to.
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- Disraeli
themselves honorably have not been through SERE. It is generally offered to special operators of one variety or another (Green Berets, Marine Recon/Force Recon, Navy Seals, AF FAC's & PJ's for example).
Every soldier, sailor and Marine (I'm guessing on the first two, I know about Marines) know the rules related to captivity by heart and they take them VERY seriously. The average grunt doesn't go through SERE primarily because they don't know all that much. Operators go through SERE because they potentially know a lot. The general rule of thumb is that everyone will eventually talk. One of the points of SERE is to let you know what happens so you will be able to hold out a little longer.
The conduct of the Brit troops from start to finish was un-military and generally disgusting. The officers should be court marshaled and the whole chain of command should be cashiered. Unfortunately, they won't be.
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of command, hugh? I guess they'd better start selling commissions again.
A precedent embalms a principle.
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From what I've read, it didn't approach what I went through when I had that training. Of course, the instructors could probably be brought up on charges of torture by the new "administration".
A few of the Brits held out. Could it be that they had some training? Not all our military receives SERE training. Would it be fair to hold them to the same standards?
Remember the enlisted guy that fell off the AC during VN and was captured? He said that if not for the crash training provided by several POW's he would not have survived or been able to resist as much as he did.
I agree that the behavior was reprehensible but proper training does go a long ways.
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