The Sunday Morning Talk Shows - The Review
Four Days until the Iowa thing, it seems.
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Sunday, December 30, 2007

On FNS, Republican Presidential hopeful Fred Thompson seemed to predict a strong third place showing in Iowa, stating the the RCP average which put him a distant third included an outlier. Asked about Mike Huckabee, Thompson pointed out that Huckabee has a "blame America first" mindset. Asked about Mitt Romney, Thompson offered that Mitt changes his philosophy as the wind blows and that it is "hard to pin Mitt down on what he actually believes."
Next on FNS, David Yepsen said that Romney's negative advertising could work for him in Iowa.
On TW, Democratic Presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton declared that she played a major role in Bill Clinton's Administration but promised that he would not play a major role in hers. She boasted that she was given access to classified material when he was President despite the fact that she lacked the requisite security clearance.
Next on TW, Republican Presidential hopeful John McCain defended himself against Romney's attacks in response to his attacks in response to Romney's initial attacks by pointing out that he was merely quoting the Concord Monitor stating that Mitt Romney is a "phony." He would not there call Romney a phony, saying that this was something the voters will decide.
On MTP, Republican Presidential hopeful Mike Huckabee covered a list of what he said were Romney mischaracterizations of him and his records. He was effective here, and he did not slip when defending his foreign policy or his faith.
Next on MTP, Democratic Presidential hopeful Barack Obama talked about a "we" who had to fix things in Pakistan. I'm assuming that he meant the United Nations rather than the United States. Russert suggested that Benazir Bhutto was shot as a result of our invasion of Iraq, and Obama disagreed.
On FTN, Democratic Presidential hopeful John Edwards spouted that corporate greed and corporate power have a hold on the soul of our democracy. He boasted that when he calls the ambassador and demands a call back from Pervez Musharraf, Musharraf calls back.
And on CNN's Late Edition, Fred Thompson told host Wolf Blitzer that it would not surprise him if he came in second place in Iowa. As for his campaign, he promised to keep doing what he's doing: "There will be on change in Fred."
Next on LE, Hillary stressed curtailing monetary assistance to Pakistan because Musharraf is not reliable. She wants an "independent, international investigation" of Bhutto's death, as she doesn't trust Pakistan.
The show-by-show review is beneath the fold. Read On…
FRED THOMPSON ON FNS. First up on FOX News Sunday with Chris Wallace was the candidate most dismissed by MSM pundits and news reporters, Fred Thompson. Wallace asked him about the headlines in Iowa about Fred allegedly telling a crowd that he lacks fire in the belly and does not even want to be President. Smiling, Thompson responded that this was a case of "journalistic malpractice," creative reporting. He said that he had said that he did want to be President and that is: "why I'm doing what I'm doing." [See Erick's story from yesterday.]
Wallace asked Thompson about his standing in the polls in Iowa. The Real Clear Politics average has him a distant third, behind Huckabee and Romney by a 2-1 margin. Thompson explained that RCP included an outlier in their average, one which had him at about 5%. Thompson is confident that it is much closer than this.
Thompson pointed out that the Rasmussen national poll had him six points from the lead.
Wallace asked Thompson if Mike Huckabee is prepared to be President. Thompson didn't take the bait, but he declared that America needs someone who "understands the world we live in." We do not need someone with a "blame America first" mindset, he said, adding that Huckabee had sent an apology to Pakistan for Benazir Bhutto's death.
Wallace asked Thompson if Mitt Romney is prepared to be President. Thompson didn't take the bait, but he reminded us that Romney has changed his mind on matters which are core to conservatism. Romney, he said, has "changed his basic philosophy," offering the examples of taxes and immigration. Thompson added that "it's hard to pin Mitt down on what he actually believes."
Thompson discussed his own national security bona fides.
Wallace asked Thompson if he should have entered the race earlier, as the pundits maintain. Thompson said no, he got in the race when people traditionally get into the race. When this process is over, he said, we can all second-guess, adding that right now, "it looks like the timing is really good." This was the way they did it in Tennessee, he explained.
DAVID YEPSEN ON FNS. David Yepsen is the political guy at Iowa's Des Moines Register, and the networks dust him off every four years to talk about these caucuses for a few weeks, with Chris Wallace and FOX being no different on this score.
Of note, Wallace pointed out that Mitt Romney is running the only negative ads in Iowa. He asked if there were any truth to the "truism" that negative advertising backfires in Iowa, and Yepsen shot that one down: "Negative ads do work." He added that Huckabee is "taking a pounding" not just from Romney, but also from some 527s.
Yepsen said that there were "three tickets out of Iowa," and he thinks John McCain might take the third ticket out. Then he suggested: "Ron Paul is the wild card."
MIKE HUCKABEE ON MTP. On NBC's Meet the Press, host Tim Russert began by talking to Republican Presidential hopeful Mike Huckabee. The candidate had dropped nine points in an MSNBC/McClatchy poll of Iowans. Huckabee offered that the polls were "all over the place," some have him leading, others trailing. To his credit, he did not burst into laughter when Russert, with a straight face, uttered the name "McClatchy." Let alone MSNBC. Russert asked if the commercials regarding Huckabee's record might have had some influence. Huckabee said that with the relentless attacks – "and they were relentless" – and the fact that he was outspend 21-1, "it's pretty amazing that I am where I am."
Russert asked if Mitt Romney had said anything about Huckabee which was untrue. Huckabee started the list. Mitt claimed that Huckabee had reduced Meth sentences in Arkansas when the truth is that he signed a bill in 1999 which doubled Meth sentences, which are four times greater than those in Romney's Massachusetts. Huckabee said that Romney accused him of giving "special breaks" to illegal immigrants. Actually, it was a bill concerning the children of such people who had "earned" scholarships, and it never made the legislature. Romney accused Huckabee of increasing spending "by some ridiculous amount," and even the New York Times "took him apart" on this false claim. Huckabee said that Romney's claim about tax increases was wrong because the tax increases in Arkansas were either court ordered or approved by the voters, such as the one to improve roads. Huckabee said that he left Arkansas with good roads, while Romney's "were a mess" in Massachusetts. Romney claims that he did not raise taxes, when actually he did raise taxes in the form of fees by a half-billion dollars.
He said that he raised taxes for "educational purposes" and for roads. (I take it, then, that he opposes abolishing the Department of Education.)
Foreign affairs. Huckabee said that in light of the events of the past few weeks, some of his remarks regarding Pak seem "almost prophetic." Russert grilled him about his pledge to use military strikes within Pakistan to rid it of al Qaeda. Russert averred that he would then destabilize the Musharraf regime and turn Pakistan over to the Taliban. Huckabee said the strike would not an effort to destabilize Musharraf. He predicted that the past week's activities would lead to a greater accountability of how our aid checks to Pakistan are being spent.
Russert asked him if it was worth destabilizing Musharraf to capture Osama bin Laden. Huckabee challenged the assertion that the U.S. strike would destabilize Musharraf. He said that if he were President, he would weigh all the information to determine whether it were worth the risk of destabilizing Pakistan if we could possibly "save American lives" and "take out al Qaeda's number one operative."
Huckabee explained his "close the borders to Pakistani illegals" comment in reaction to Bhutto's assassination by saying that he was trying to make the point that what happens in the world affects us here in the U.S. and that he wants to stop Pakistanis from crossing our borders with shoulder filed missiles in their briefcases.
When asked for an example of the President's "arrogant bunker mentality," Huckabee said it was Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld ignoring the advice of the generals and "arbitrarily" sending too few troops into Iraq. Huckabee pointed out that he's been more consistent in his support of the President when they agree, such as with the Surge. He said that Mitt Romney has been a "latecomer" in supporting the surge.
Huckabee defended his faith nicely against Russert's attacks.
It went on for a while. Russert's questions, while not softballs, were not as tough as some of the questions I've seen asked here at RedState. Huckabee did not implode, by any stretch, and handled himself well.
OBAMA ON MTP. Russert next grilled Democratic Presidential hopeful Barack Obama. Russert showed the Olbermann/McClatchy poll, and Obama said that he's getting great crowds. Obama said it is understandable if the Pakistani elections "are delayed slightly." He said that "we" should reinstate an impartial judiciary in Pakistan. By "we," I'm sure Barry means the United Nations and not the United States, and Russert did not ask Barry how many Blue Helmets he would commit to this reinstatement. Barry said that the government of Pakistan must "appear legitimate." To whom? Maybe the U.N., maybe the U.S., perhaps France.
Russert asked Obama if he believes that Hillary's vote to invade Iraq led to the assassination of Benazir Bhutto in Pakistan last week. Barry answered no. "Of course not." (Team Barry had evidently said of Hillary that by going into Iraq, we were distracted from Afghanistan and fighting al Qaeda.) Russert formulated that the war in Iraq had distracted us from Pakistan which led to the assassination of Benazir Bhutto. Obama said he's not drawing a causal relationship.
They went over that old stuff about Bill Clinton telling Charlie Rose that a vote for Obama is "rolling the dice" because of his inexperience. Obama pointed out the similarities with Clinton in '92.
Obama didn't hurt himself, I don't think. Ask a Dem.
HILLARY ON TW. On ABC's This Week, host George Stephanopoulos first talked to his former boss' wife, Hillary Clinton. Hillary took credit for many things which happened during the Clinton Administration, such as the peace deal in Northern Ireland and keeping the peace with the PRC as a "spokesman in Beijing." She said that though she did not sit in on all of her husband's national security meetings and did not have a security clearance, she was privy to "classified information." (This is a violation of federal law.)
So she played a major role in the Clinton Administration, she said.
If elected, though, she promised that her husband Bill would not be allowed in on any meetings and would have no formal role. She promised that she would rely on him only as a wife might rely on her husband.
So he would play no major role in the 2nd Clinton Administration, she said.
She's not afraid of a loss in New Hampshire, she said, because her husband did not win a primary until Georgia's.
JOHN MCCAIN ON TW. Steph opened the interview by playing a Romney ad attacking John McCain, followed by a McCain ad attacking Romney, both airing in New Hampshire. McCain's ad pointed out that New Hampshire's Concord Monitor had referred to Romney as "phony," and Romney angrily accused McCain of a personal attack. McCain answered Steph by pointing out that he was only quoting an important New Hampshire paper and by welcoming Romney to national politics.
McCain added that, despite what Team Mitt claimed in its attack ad, he had never supported amnesty for illegal aliens. He pointed out that Romney was also attacking Huckabee – "a fine person" – in Iowa.
McCain would not himself say if he thought Romney were a phony, allowing only that the "voters will decide."
McCain did not predict a victory for himself in New Hamsphire this morning, though he has done so in the past.
JOHN EDWARDS ON FTN Over on CBS, Face the Nation host Bob Schieffer interviewed 2008 Democratic Presidential hopeful John Edwards. Schieff asked Edwards about Bill Clinton's assertion that Hillary's the only Dem with the necessary crisis experience to handle the world today. Edwards disagreed. When he found out that Benazir Bhutto had been assassinated, he talked to the Pakistani ambassador to the United States and demanded to talk to Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf. Musharraf called him several hours later, and Edwards says he demanded this and that. He said that Musharraf gave in to each demand except for the bit about an international investigation into the murder.
Edwards wants the Pak elections to be held soon and be legitimate.
Schieff asked Edwards if it would be possible for Bill not to have an official role in a Hillary Administration. Edwards pointed out that Bill, on the stump for Hillary, talks about his views rather than hers. Edwards thinks Bill will play a role and suggested that Bill could play a role in his own hypothetical administration.
John Edwards thinks 527's should be illegal, even if they air only positive advertising like the ones supporting him and run by his former campaign manager. He added that he has no control over any of this.
Schieffer accidentally called Hillary, "Senator Hilton." You figure it out.
Edwards believes that corporate greed and corporate power have a hold on the soul of our democracy.
Asked what he'd do if he didn't finish at least second in Iowa, Edwards said he's moving and he's moving in a positive way.
FRED THOMPSON ON LE. On CNN, host Wolf Blitzer first talked to Fred Thompson. First topic: Pak. Blitzer asked Thompson if he had confidence in Musharraf. Thompson explained that we had to have confidence in him in the short term, for stability's sake in a nuclear-armed country. He said that "ultimately, the people of Pakistan are going to have to decide" about Musharraf, adding that things had been moving in the right direction there.
Thompson said that our foreign assistant to Pakistan should continue for the time being. "This is not time to be parsimonious about it," he said.
Thompson expressed confidence in Pakistan to investigate the death of Bhutto, adding that he believes al Qaeda when they claim credit for the assassination. He thinks that Pak can handle this investigation without any outside nations coming in to "tell them how to do it."
Blitzer played the quote – "I'm not particularly interesting in running for President, but…" – and asked about it. Fred said that the media, but not Wolf, likes to pick out bits and take it out of context. Fred said that he was not interesting in the process of running, but then he listed the reasons why he wanted to be President.
Fred said that he has "a decent chance of coming in second" in Iowa. He's touring 60 towns and villages, getting a chance to "spend time" with people. This has created "on the ground activity" and generated contributions.
Thompson is not going to change strategy or message. "There'll be no change in Fred." He said that he fills "pretty optimistic right now."
HILLARY ON LE. Blitzer next spoke to Dem Hillary Clinton. She demanded that an "independent, international investigation" be launched into Benazir Bhutto. She demanded free and fair elections be held immediately, adding that she understands that it will take time for Bhutto's People's Party to select a successor. (Not really. It's her son, Bilawal Bhutto. It is probable that her husband, Asif Ali Zardari, is pulling the strings. It should surprise few if Zardari is the eventual candidate, despite his criminal record.)
She will put conditions on U.S. funding to Pakistan, accusing the Bush Administration of giving a "blank check to the Musharraf regime." She thinks Musharraf is not reliable.
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On FNS (I think), they had each commentator make their Iowa predictions. I think all of them said they think it will go like this: 1) Romney; 2) Huckabee; 3) McCain. I also noticed in all of the shows during the round table talks, there is never any mention of Thompson. This is very disappointing to me. As far as I can tell, Thompson is still in this. I certainly don't think the media is helping him at all.
I almost think minus yesterday's "journalistic malpractice" that CNN has been friendlier than Fox.
Fox won't even recognize that he is in 3rd.
Jason in NorCal
Close. But this is what they predicted.
Juan Williams: (1) Huckabee, (2) Romney (3) McCain.
Bill Kristol: (1) Romney by a healthy margin over (2) Huckabee and then (3) McCain, but McCain might finish ahead of Huckabee.
Mara Eliason: (1) Romney by a tiny bit over (2) Huckabee and then (3) McCain.
Brit Hume refused to make a guess.
is a contradiction in terms.
A strong 3rd is important because most are saying if Fred is not top 3, he is done. McCain can still finish below 3rd, and rally in NH and Michigan, and we know the Guiliani strategy.
Strong 3rd means Fred has picked up a lot of ground in the last few weeks, most Fred folks are saying within 10 pts of the leader is strong.
I think only the Thompson campaign (and maybe McCain) really care about "strong" 3rd.
Jason in NorCal
But want to thank you as always for doing this. I saw a bit of Huck and that's it so far. I don't think he did anything to hurt himself, which 4 days before caucus, it was considered a risk to be on that show, and I think he did fine. Not that I agree with all he says, but he did fine.
My only surprise, Fred saying he could finish 2nd. I hope he is right. Let's say it did happen, who would have droppped?
Jason in NorCal
I think Huckabee would be the one to drop. He's losing momentum. The problem is McCain -- he seems to be the on with the strong mo right now. I hate to say it, but if Fred comes in 4th, I think he's done. If he comes in a strong 3rd, I think the mo will be with him. If he comes in 2nd, it wouldn't surprise me if he ends up with the nomination.
I'm not completely sure he is done with 4th, but I think its tough to move on from there. The positive in ignoring NH is that he can spend a lot more time in SC than the others, minus the two back to back debates in NH.
A good showing in Iowa might give Fred a bump or two in NH, but he is wise to ignore that state.
If someone flops, I sure hope its Huckabee.
Jason in NorCal
I think that this morning was the first Hillary stump that she didn't throw that 35 years of experience out there which she does NOT have because she knew that would not fly with Stephanopolis because he knows better. Obama was talking about something he knows nothing about, namely foreign affairs. Mimicing something that he heard another candidate say which is the same-old-same-old since the start of his campaign the only thing missing is OOprah. John Edwards boasts about putting demands on Musharaff would be laughable if he weren't so serious about it. Huckabee still playing that (getting very old) christianity card and talking about his record being under-estimated (if he is talking about all the questionable activity surrounding his record while Governor he is right)while Governor. The Mac is definitely back and (as cool and calm as ever) could not be goaded into any negative activity by George Stephanopolis on the Romney front but did manage to get a plug in for his website.
I am a dedicated MTP watcher. I never miss it, thanks to the netcast. I just finished watching Huckabee (haven't watched Obama yet) and I have a few thoughts. I fully recognize that I really dislike Huckabee so I may be biased because of that.
This was one of the softest interviews I've seen Russert perform in years. The main questions were good, although I am disturbed that he didn't go after him on ethical issues and pardons. The reason I say it was soft is that I've never seen Russert allow an interviewee to talk so freely without interrupting him and making him clarify, or address the actual question. The last 5-10 minutes were more of the typical Russert interview but he seemed to have free reign before that to go off topic, nail Romney, praise McCain. He was all over the place.
I think he got off easy, although I do like that people got to hear more of what a populist this guy is.
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I think you maybe wanted him hammered more, but he was peppered with questions challenging his record and interrupted a couple of times.
I too am an avid MTP viewer, and it was pretty consistent for Russert.
Watch his interview with Obama... now that was soft. It was as though Russert wanted to give Obama a free 30 minutes to sell his candidacy.
they only scheduled Huck for 30 minutes and also scheduled Obama for an encore, rather than the usual 60 minute grilling, BUT
I was wrong. Tim was tough on Huck.
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Not one question about his ethical violations.
Not one question about his pardons and commutations.
No challenge of his "executive experience claim"
No follow up on issues with spending and taxes
At least 5 minutes without being interrupted rant about Romney
No questions about the McCain/Huckabee strategy after his promotion of McCain
Russert showed how Huckabee had flip-flopped on immigration but let him give a weak answer and didn't follow up afterwards
Let him get answer a tough "bunker mentality" question by deflecting the question with criticism of Romney
How again was this a tough interview? Compared to the Guiliani and Romney interviews this was absolutely a cakewalk.
* PRIESTCRAFT is thus defined: “The stratagem and frauds of priests; fraud or imposition in religious concerns. Management of selfish and ambitious priests to gain wealth and power, or to impose upon the credulity of others.”
Huck did have a lot to respond to re Romney.
Tim pressed Huck a lot. As much as he pressed Rudy or Mitt? no
But then I thought Tim was unfair with Rudy and Mitt.
I thought today, Tim was appropriately tough and in letting Huck explain himself.
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Russert challenged him to list the parts of his record about which Romney has lied, and Huckabee ran off about a half a dozen. That was obviously one of the things for which he was prepared.
Remember, this was not a part of the "Meet the Candidates" thing Russert has been doing. These were pre-Iowa interviews.
There were a couple of questions (I'm not referring to the direct Romney questions) where Huckabee totally deflected the question and instead talked about Romney. I think one was the "bunker mentality" question and the other was on immigration. I need to watch it again.
The first part about Romney was in direct response. The others seemed to me to be too much for a Russert interview, he usually calls people out on those by bringing up the exact criticism the candidate that is being attacked would use if they were there.
Like I said, I don't like Huckabee so I may see it different but this sure seemed like the interview was softer than usual.
* PRIESTCRAFT is thus defined: “The stratagem and frauds of priests; fraud or imposition in religious concerns. Management of selfish and ambitious priests to gain wealth and power, or to impose upon the credulity of others.”
But I think TR asked the normal tough questions. He just did not cut Huckabee off as much.
Let's face it, the left knows they can clobber this guy in the general, why do it now? The right is doing it for them.
Jason in NorCal
I do not get an implication that Fred was saying Mike Huckabee has a 'Blame America First' mindset. This is the exact quote
When he says let's deal with Castro and things like that in the past, which I think he's changed his mind on now, I disagree with those things and I point out that we need someone who understands the nature of the world that we live in and someone that certainly does not fall into the Democratic mode of blame America first for all these problems that come around.
I took it that he was calling out the Dems instead of calling out Huckabee.
Now there's no more oak oppression,
For they passed a noble law,
And the trees are all kept equal
By hatchet, axe, and saw.
both the Dems AND Huck. Very economical criticism! :>)
"we need someone who... certainly does not fall into the Democratic mode of blame America first"
Seems patently clear that Thompson is saying that Huckabee falls into that mindset. Couple that with Huckabee's foreign policy essay that asserts that America needs to reach out more and it is patently clear that Huckabee does indeed blame America for not giving a great big hug and opening a warm and fuzzy dialogue with the rest of the world.
Also, to the comments above regarding the Fox ignoring of Thompson, I noticed the crawl on the Fox News Channel could have been written by the same reporter that committed journalistic malpractice. The comments were framed from the standpoing that Thompson does not want to be president, rather than the truth that he does indeed but wants to go about it in his own way. What ever happened to fair and balanced?
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"Let us have faith that right makes might, and in that faith, let us, to the end, dare to do our duty as we understand it." - A. Lincoln
was that Thompson was mainly cricizing Huckabee for being in the "Democratic mode" of blame America first. Remember, he was anwring a question about Huckabee and his example was what he called Huckabee's "apology" for the Bhutto assassination:
There was an apology issued by the governor after former Prime Minister Bhutto was killed. I think he later clarified that, but I was wondering what the rest of the world thought about one of our presidential candidates apologizing after a foreign leader was assassinated.
I guess the minor quibble of mine is that by not posting above the "Democrat mode" you kind of leave out the criticism by Fred of the Dems as well as of Huckabee.
Now there's no more oak oppression,
For they passed a noble law,
And the trees are all kept equal
By hatchet, axe, and saw.
about going into Pakistan regardless of what the Paks say about it with this "apology" misstep and you have all you need for someone over there to see Huckabee as a real threat to their country's sovereignty. Yes, I know we had nothing to do with Bhutto's assasination and, yes, I know he later said he mispoke, but do you really think his correction got the same amount of play that the original statement got?
Also, as the years wear on, I agree more and more with W that Osama is a symbol. And I see him now as a symbol of failure more than anything else--killing him would only make of him a holy martyr. Better to let him live in his hideout and watch his insane ideology fail across the globe. It's probably too much to hope for that his own true believers would someday turn on him a la Mussolini, but a woman can dream, right?
and while I think he overemphasized Huck's misspoken apology (no way Huck meant to say that), and was vague in tying Huck to blame america firstism, I don't think Huck would be that and don't think Fred crossed the line in suggesting so.
Christmas spirit still lives in Charlotte!
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You deserve a medal for sitting through all that drivel. Please God the first primaries are decisive, so we can be spared more of the same.
a nerd but the Sunday morning political shows are probably my favorite shows on TV.
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me and many others here at RS in the Geek catagory.
I am also in the geek redneck catagory because I could fight, play sports and date the good looking chicks while making straight A's!
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Guitar players get all the chicks... ;-)
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baseball and I won my first fight in junour high and never had to fight again!
Also bought a good car!
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6'2" 200+ lbs...was friends with all of the different cliques except the jocks (was 2nd in my class). Didn't run into too many who screwed around with me...
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kid in your class? Where did you grow up? I'm 6'4 and was my full height my junior year and there were many kids taller than me.
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I have no explanation for it - maybe it was the water...
I actually misspoke - there was a girl who was taller than me (6'4", I think). Now, 25+ years later, she still holds state track & field records.
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don't want to talk to you guys with your head in the clouds for awhile.
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rick554
She had access to classified matierial WITHOUT a clearance????? Isnt that ...... uhmmm hmmmmm .... against the Law?? It still is isnt it??? Do these clintons have no shame ?? Are Americans really this stupid? Just a couple of questions for a Sunday night.
Spot on... if this is true, can we get a separate article and thread going? This is potentially a very big deal.
Kenilworth, IL

assessment of Huckabee's performance and substance today on MTP. I have not seen the other shows yet. My assessment of Huck is below.
http://www.redstate.com/blogs/gamecock/2007/dec/30/mike_huckabee_redeeme...
Mike Gamecock DeVine @ The Charlotte Observer
http://thehinzsightreport.com
www.theminorityreportblog.com
www.race42008.com
www.fred08.com